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topsy"Warning Graphic images" 10:20am Thursday 12th Mar
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Hello All,

A few days ago, I found one of my Koi around 10 yards away from the edge of my natural pond, I assumed it must have jumped out, and then been attacked by cats or something.

This morning I awoke to a similar scene of carnage, this time the fish was only around 3,yards from the ponds edge.

I live in North Yorkshire, near the coast, I do see herons around here, but I don't think they would be stong enough to drag a fish as big as this out of the water - does anyone have any thoughts on what could be responsible.

In the meantime, I am putting an electric fence around the perimeter.

Thanks for the input, Topsy.




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"RE: Warning Graphic images" 11:48am Thursday 12th Mar


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Paul,

Could it be otters , are there any in your area?


Tony




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topsy"RE: Warning Graphic images" 12:23pm Thursday 12th Mar
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Hi Tony, Thanks for the reply, otters have been seen in a stream about a mile from where I am - do you think that the damage to the fish would fit their MO.

Cheers, Topsy
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"RE: Warning Graphic images" 4:46pm Thursday 12th Mar


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Paul,

Thankfully I have no personal experience of otters but have heard of others suffering similar problems.

Maybe some one else will respond.


Tony




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"RE: Warning Graphic images" 6:15pm Thursday 12th Mar


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it could also be mink & once they find food they may come back.


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"RE: Warning Graphic images" 12:38am Friday 13th Mar


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May be worth getting a camera trap to see what is about mainly at night.

Regards Jim
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"RE: Warning Graphic images" 8:17am Friday 13th Mar


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Oh no! Sorry to hear this.

Looks like you may have an otter problem. When you get your fence I’d have it at a low level to the ground so it can’t sneak under it and maybe do two lines of defence like an inner and outer fence.

You may find now though that as it’s found a food source it may keep coming back until it has them all


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"RE: Warning Graphic images" 11:09am Friday 13th Mar
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I had a problem with a predator and it was definitely mink in my case. Fish were completely devoured. You seem to have a predator that is taking the fish but not consuming them. So maybe not otter or mink. A camera to find out is the best idea and then you will know what you are dealing with. Good luck. Michael.


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"RE: Warning Graphic images" 2:30pm Friday 13th Mar


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Definitely think it’s a Mink. It’s not happened to me 🤞, however, I do know of it happening to someone else.

I feel for you pal. Hopefully you can solve the problem ASAP.

Steve
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"RE: Warning Graphic images" 3:19pm Friday 13th Mar | message edited 2 times


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Here are a few camera traps they do still shots and video easy to use - you will also need sim card and battery's - I got re-chargeable and a charger. They are great for seeing what wildlife is about especially at night when you are not about.




Looks like whatever has taken this fish has eaten some of it (hard to imagine the fish size with noting at the side of it to compare) I would go for Mink or otter.
topsy"RE: Warning Graphic images" 6:18pm Friday 13th Mar
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Thank you for all your help and advice, I have erected a electric fence around the pond, and I have ordered a night vision wildlife camera - so hopefully I will be able to record the culprit!

I will post an update, when I have more information.

Thanks again, Topsy.
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"RE: Warning Graphic images" 10:47am Saturday 14th Mar
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looks more like a mink attack,otters tend to go for egg laden females and eat just that part.

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"RE: Warning Graphic images" 9:28am Sunday 15th Mar


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Based on my coarse fishing experience I would suggest Mink. They usually eat what they can in a sitting and leave the rest and catch fresh again for the next meal, usually only eating a small select area as in your case.

Andy.c.
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"RE: Warning Graphic images" 11:30pm Thursday 19th Mar


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Any update Topsy?


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topsy"RE: Warning Graphic images" 8:14am Saturday 21st Mar
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Hello Again Everyone,

It looks like we have the culprit who was catching and eating my Koi.

Last night, the camera caught an image of a fox in the area where the Koi had been removed from the pond.

Has anybody any experience of foxes taking koi like this - I would have thought it must have swam in the water to catch it?

Here's the pic, and I welcome your thoughts on the subject.

Cheers, Topsy.
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"RE: Warning Graphic images" 10:06am Saturday 21st Mar


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I doubt a fox would be able to catch a koi especially in water as they are so slippery. Maybe it was seeing if there was anything edible in the area.


Laura

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"RE: Warning Graphic images" 10:42am Monday 30th Mar
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fox no chance nor a domestic cat either on a big koi.

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"RE: Warning Graphic images" 10:30pm Tuesday 7th Apr


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Topsy have you had any further images of night visitors?


Tony




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